Curse

Zackile Greenbirth · Aug 11, 2005, 02:35 PM // 14:35

Miteethors V3.0 Build is the easiest build to solo UW with as you can take on large groups and survive easily, even grasping darknesses are easy as i have constand regen.

Thanks Miteethor....been using your build fo UW runs all the time

With all sup runes and -50hp icon you are almost invincible, Get a monk with Life Bond to join you and you only get 1 dmg a hit........then change Watchful Spirit for Essence Bond then you canhave +1 energy a hit AND still have +1 regen (Healing 13, +4 Mending) when bleeding......only problem would be dryders with immolate, but you can avoid them for Smite Runs.

Arton · Aug 11, 2005, 05:26 PM // 17:26

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Originally Posted by saphir

one does NEED breeze, or NEED boon. it depends on your style of play.

I don't use Breeze or Boon.

David Lionmaster · Aug 11, 2005, 07:04 PM // 19:04

i hate u monks that solo in uw, u ruined the prices of storm bows and the economy!!!!

Mygo · Aug 11, 2005, 08:07 PM // 20:07

So how do you guys do the mindblades? Migraines/Conjure phantasm/Ignorance hexers.

Lynnrose · Aug 11, 2005, 09:18 PM // 21:18

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Originally Posted by David Lionmaster

i hate u monks that solo in uw, u ruined the prices of storm bows and the economy!!!!

Honestly? I have a 105/55 monk smiter I use to grind/farm UW and other areas, primarily for the XP (to unlock skills so I don't have to take an E/Me through the linear, predictable, now-stale storyline yet again). Wanna know what I do with storm bows? I either give them to friends, sell them for less than 1K in Ascalon (or give them away if I can tell the person is a newbie), or sell them to the merchant for their 50 gp inherent value. Yeah -- that's wrecking the economy. This thread is about discussing and improving upon the builds for smite monks, not for bitching about who's to blame for the state of the GW economy.

capitalist · Aug 11, 2005, 09:38 PM // 21:38

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Originally Posted by Ryun

Honestly? I have a 105/55 monk smiter I use to grind/farm UW and other areas, primarily for the XP (to unlock skills so I don't have to take an E/Me through the linear, predictable, now-stale storyline yet again). Wanna know what I do with storm bows? I either give them to friends, sell them for less than 1K in Ascalon (or give them away if I can tell the person is a newbie), or sell them to the merchant for their 50 gp inherent value. Yeah -- that's wrecking the economy. This thread is about discussing and improving upon the builds for smite monks, not for bitching about who's to blame for the state of the GW economy.

/signed

Straight to the merchant for all my storm bows.

Melkor of ZoSo · Aug 12, 2005, 03:35 AM // 03:35

What's good Armor to use with this build? Any of Droknar's Armor? I've got Droknars Censor's Armor right now... Dont want to put all the runes on if there'd be a better choice for the build...

Zackile Greenbirth · Aug 12, 2005, 04:38 AM // 04:38

Lions Arch tatto armor is best as cheapest and armor value doesn't matter

Phoenix Of The Rising Sun · Aug 12, 2005, 08:39 AM // 08:39

dats so cool-to solo UW and FoW!! i guess dats something to be proud of.. i'm gonna be a mo\w too!! =p

Daren · Aug 12, 2005, 10:26 AM // 10:26

How do you colour you scapls? -.- doesnt seem to work with one dye for me..

capitalist · Aug 12, 2005, 01:32 PM // 13:32

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Originally Posted by Melkor of ZoSo

What's good Armor to use with this build? Any of Droknar's Armor? I've got Droknars Censor's Armor right now... Dont want to put all the runes on if there'd be a better choice for the build...

I know someone answered this for you but if you read the damn post it has been mentioned numerous times.

HowardJones · Aug 12, 2005, 04:27 PM // 16:27

ok...

I tried the V.3 build and it sucks. mending+watchfull spirit = < healing breeze. Your build fogoes essence bond for two healing enchants that you have to maintain, and it DOES NOT prevent you from bleeding to death. Also, you DO NOT have the time to cast shield of judgement vs them. You CANNOT sacrifice exxence bond.

with my build I can take on more aatxes than with yours and I do about the same dmg as you say you can do.

PS- the divine boon + zealots fire works well but I dont use that one

also, for those of you thinking taking the foclli that negs 50 health is smart, do the math. You are getting one or two hits more than taking the 105 build, plus you have lower health window if your breeze is interrupted while bleeding, PLUS you give up the bonus of energy and recharge from either the monk staff or proper icon.

I laugh because I decided to sell my staff of smiting collectors with perfect enchant and energy mod and people told me I was stupid and laughed at me and offered 3k for it. Thiss staff is probably better than anything else for farming, because its the balth aura that you need recharged fastest. I took so much grief from morons...

xAzNx · Aug 12, 2005, 04:51 PM // 16:51

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Originally Posted by HowardJones

ok...

I tried the V.3 build and it sucks. mending+watchfull spirit = < healing breeze. Your build fogoes essence bond for two healing enchants that you have to maintain, and it DOES NOT prevent you from bleeding to death. Also, you DO NOT have the time to cast shield of judgement vs them. You CANNOT sacrifice exxence bond.

with my build I can take on more aatxes than with yours and I do about the same dmg as you say you can do.

PS- the divine boon + zealots fire works well but I dont use that one

also, for those of you thinking taking the foclli that negs 50 health is smart, do the math. You are getting one or two hits more than taking the 105 build, plus you have lower health window if your breeze is interrupted while bleeding, PLUS you give up the bonus of energy and recharge from either the monk staff or proper icon.

I laugh because I decided to sell my staff of smiting collectors with perfect enchant and energy mod and people told me I was stupid and laughed at me and offered 3k for it. Thiss staff is probably better than anything else for farming, because its the balth aura that you need recharged fastest. I took so much grief from morons...

are u sure u tried the build.. it works like a charm for me :P

miteethor · Aug 12, 2005, 05:25 PM // 17:25

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Originally Posted by HowardJones

ok...

I tried the V.3 build and it sucks. mending+watchfull spirit = < healing breeze. Your build fogoes essence bond for two healing enchants that you have to maintain, and it DOES NOT prevent you from bleeding to death. Also, you DO NOT have the time to cast shield of judgement vs them. You CANNOT sacrifice exxence bond.

with my build I can take on more aatxes than with yours and I do about the same dmg as you say you can do.

PS- the divine boon + zealots fire works well but I dont use that one

also, for those of you thinking taking the foclli that negs 50 health is smart, do the math. You are getting one or two hits more than taking the 105 build, plus you have lower health window if your breeze is interrupted while bleeding, PLUS you give up the bonus of energy and recharge from either the monk staff or proper icon.

I think you haven't thought this through all the way. With 105HP that means you take 5 dmg per hit. With a max Healing breeze you can heal 20HP per second, which is 4 monster hits per second. If you are bleeding then it's 7 arrows or 14HP per second, which is not even 3 monster hits.

You also have to cast it maybe 5-6 times per minute at 60 energy, and there is a chance yours can get (fatally) interrupted meaning you may have to cast more like 7-8 times per minute. You are spending a lot of time and energy re-casting a healing spell you don't need.

With 55HP, you take only 2 dmg per hit because of rounding, and with Mending+Watchful spirit on you can heal 6 hits per second. Plus I never have to spend any points healing because mine is on all the time and it can't get interrupted.

Now when you use Bonettis or Shielf of Judgement, the attack rate drops from about 1 attack per person every 1.25 seconds to 1 attack per monster every 3-4 seconds, which means you can effectively take a mob of 18-24, without using a single healing spell.

I don't see how it's possible you bled to death - bleeding is only -3 arrows and you should have +6, meaning you can bleed plus have 4 monsters and not even drop below maximum. You should also be able to take 9-12 monsters and bleed at the same time by using Bonettis Defense and Shield of Judgement to space out their hits.

Plus might I add that Essense Bond is useless against Dryders who cast all the time, and Blessed Sig makes up for it in versatility.

I think you need to re-examine how you were using the skills in that build.

MiteeThoR

Dragou Du Porzan · Aug 12, 2005, 06:02 PM // 18:02

I've tried miteethor's build and I can confirm it's outstanding for raw survivability. You'd have to be extremely negligent to bleed to death using this build. Essence Bond is redundant when you're carrying Blessed Sig. And Bonetti's provides ample opportunity to get SoJ up. I personally run with a different build because I find that while I enjoy the safety that miteethor's setup provides, I appreciate the faster killing speed of my own build. This is particularly true vs. Coldfires, where BS's casting time goes from 2 to 6 seconds thanks to Rust. Of course a lot of people skip Coldfires entirely, and if you do then that's clearly something you don't have to worry about.

That's what is ultimately so great about these Monk soloing builds: there are so many different variations that are equally workable depending on individual play styles. But it's just silly to say that miteethor's build sucks, since it obviously works for him and a number of people here. If you're that confident that your build can go toe to toe with his, post it up here and let the masses decide. If you don't want to publicize your build, that's fine too... but don't just take potshots from the sidelines. Nothing cool about that.

FFF_WarRaven · Aug 12, 2005, 06:16 PM // 18:16

ok just a few thoughts.

Im basically using miteethor's version execpt that i don't have shield of judgement yet, so for the time i tried signet of judgement it was ok but took too long to recharge, my last few tries i used mending +4 after casting prot bond for the -1 and respec'n to max smiting and adding to divine fav, and using symbol of wrath, casting it after i cast bonetti's and take a few hit's to regain energy, that works well as if u time it right bonnetti's won't end untill symbol is finished casting, and of course throwing in bal's arua.

Now for me this works good if i donot aggro more than 2-3 axes, sometimes i can get 3 and a group of graspings no more than 5 so total of 7-8 in a mob, but, when getting more than that aggroed sometimes even just the 3 axes i seem to take quite a bit of damage, energy doesn't seem to be much of a problem.

Now i mix it up between 105 and 85 as i do not have the -50 from the asclon cities quest, even at 85 it seems slightly tuff with larger mobs, I have myself bleed to death but that includes getting hit by 5-8 creatures.

One thing for certain is i need to be very careful with 4 or more atxes, or with more than 8 graspings, and for the 5 times i tried this just this morning smites seem to eat me alive and i cannot understand why, talking about 5-6 of em.

Miteethor's build has helped me a lot and has made it farther than the other builds i have tried and expermented with, i am going to try dropping the essence bond, and adding watchful spirit, as the 1 energy per taken hit seems like a waste esp when bonetti's give 5 per atxes fill the bar easy, same with graspings, smites i need to test a bit more as i haven't had much luck with them.

Not sure how i feel about zelots fire and db together, that needs a bit more testing as well for me anyway.

I'd just like to thank eveyone here who has added to this thread, even if uw is nerfed, no build is perfect esp with so many different people trying this concept out, it has made me change the way i look at builds, and building them it's put a lot of fun back into going into the uw for me, oh and i did pick up 1 glob this morning hehe wish they would drop more often tho

:P

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Ka RaTae · Aug 12, 2005, 07:22 PM // 19:22

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Originally Posted by HowardJones

ok...

I tried the V.3 build and it sucks. mending+watchfull spirit = < healing breeze. Your build fogoes essence bond for two healing enchants that you have to maintain, and it DOES NOT prevent you from bleeding to death. Also, you DO NOT have the time to cast shield of judgement vs them. You CANNOT sacrifice exxence bond.

Dude...are you on ludes? Did you have a mending of 4 or did you do something stupid and have a mending of 1? Did you actually run this with the correct setup? You have to have the 55 health. What does essense bond have to do with any of what you just said? If you can't get a shield off, then you aren't playing the build correctly....cast it when bonnetis defense is on. I think it sounds more like you are trashing the build because you do not understand how to play it or the game or the area.

kleps · Aug 12, 2005, 07:26 PM // 19:26

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Originally Posted by Ka RaTae

Dude...are you on ludes? Did you have a mending of 4 or did you do something stupid and have a mending of 1? Did you actually run this with the correct setup? You have to have the 55 health. What does essense bond have to do with any of what you just said? If you can't get a shield off, then you aren't playing the build correctly....cast it when bonnetis defense is on. I think it sounds more like you are trashing the build because you do not understand how to play it or the game or the area.

i completely agree. i think the build works just fine and it is not limited to only being used in the UW. check your skill points. are you utilizing your skills correctly?

Krank · Aug 12, 2005, 09:42 PM // 21:42

Where has the -50 icon gone?

The ascalon cities quest doesnt have that anymore

Melkor of ZoSo · Aug 12, 2005, 09:51 PM // 21:51

I see you've been soloing FoW too....

Any tutorial on that?